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Rob (c137)'s avatar

I was big into the ufo thing - figured these are the gods of old showing up as new things.

but after 2 decades of seeing how fleeting the proof is, and today with super cameras we still get shitty blurry dots... I stopped believing it was a real physical thing, but possibly mental. Even abduction stories could just be a screen for 3 letter agencies to abduct and experiment on people... but recently this gem explained it... connected the dots so to speak, the things that didnt make sense with the phenomenon

"Daimonic Reality by Patrick Harpur examines UFOs and a wide variety of “paranormal” phenomena from a rather unique angle. Although Harpur never fully defines the daimonic—“the daimonic that can be defined is not the true daimonic,” as Lao-Tse would say—it seems to exist both inside us and outside us. Like the Greek daemon and unlike the Christian demon, it takes both good/healing and bad/terrifying forms, depending on our commitment to rationalistic ego states.

In a sense, the daimonic is like the collective unconscious of Carl Jung, inside us as a part of our total self that the ego wishes to deny, outside us in all the other humans who ever existed and in the dreams, myths, and arts of all the world. But Harpur follows Irish poet (and Golden Dawn alumnus) W. B. Yeats as often as he follows Jung, and traces some of his ideas back to Giordano Bruno and the alchemical/hermetic mystics of the Renaissance. The daimonic is just a bit more personalized and individualized than Jung’s species unconscious.

Harpur’s major thesis is that unless we recognize the daimonic (make friends with it, Jung would say) it takes increasingly malignant and terrifying forms. For instance, the Greys of UFO abduction lore, he says, are deliberately mirroring our ego-centered and “scientistic” age—showing no emotions of the humans they experiment upon, just as the ideal science student feels no emotion and has no concern with the emotions of the animal being tortured in his laboratory.

Despite dealing with many subjects common to conspiracy theories, this book does not quite fit into that category. We are the conspirators, so to speak. We have repressed the most creative part of ourselves and now it is escaping in terrifying forms."

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FedUpInOR's avatar

I think this is all about our government drumming up fear so they can siphon off more tax dollars to create more government surveillance via Drones, satellites, etc in order to take more of our freedoms. What say we call it the Patriot Act II?

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